Vice President JD Vance has dropped two unexpected revelations — and possibly snubbed his boss, President Donald Trump, in the process.
Appearing on the New York Post’s “Pod Force One” podcast on Wednesday, the vice president revealed that fellow formerTrump detractor Marco Rubio is his “best friend” in the Trump administration — and that he and the secretary of state are “very interested” in UFOs, also known as UAPs.
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Before the conversation kicked off, host Miranda Devine asked Vance whether he’s ever had any friction with Rubio, considering Trump and others have floated both men as potential GOP presidential candidates in 2028.
“First of all, no. There’s not going to be any tension. Marco is my best friend in the administration, and he and I work a lot together,” Vance told Devine. “We really do, I think … a lot of the good work that we’ve been able to do in this administration is because we’re all able to work together.”
Vance also said he’s never “woken up” with the thought of how to become president, despite teasing his potential run just last month.
Vice President JD Vance said Secretary of State Marco Rubio, a former Senate colleauge, is his "best friend" in the Trump administration. SAUL LOEB via Getty Images
The interview took a random turn at the end after Devine revealed to Vance that she’s a “mad UFO lunatic.”
Bringing up remarks the vice president had made on the “Ruthless” podcast in August about his “obsession” with mysterious UFO videos, Devine asked whether he’d made good on his goal to “try and dive to the bottom of the whole UFO thing.”
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“That was a little tongue-in-cheek. I have not figured it out yet,” Vance answered. “I haven’t had the time to figure it out yet … I really want to sort of dig into it.”
Vance then suddenly brought up Rubio again.
“You know, Marco’s actually very interested in this, too. We talked about this a little. We talked about this back in our Senate days,” he spilled.
Noting that “there’s certainly an interest there” and “an intrigue” in the subject of extraterrestrial life, Vance acknowledged the “crazy person inside of me.”
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“And there’s, you know, all of us put the tinfoil hat on from time to time,” he said. “I wonder, like, I can’t allow myself to become so busy that I spend the next three years and I don’t get to the bottom of this. So, I will get to the bottom of this, but it’s going to take me a little time.”
Watch Vance’s appearance on the “Pod Force One” podcast below.

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